kanon 3
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Kidnapping? Assault? Truancy? Yep, we got those. Kanon 3.
Abstract
Things in the arctic heat up as Makoto moves in with Nayuki and Yuuichi, and Yuuichi makes a new friend during school– much to Nayuki’s chagrin.
Bonus
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In the 2002 version, Akiko shows up to help Yuuichi take Makoto back home. This kinda made sense to me– absolutely believable that Akito would be out shopping and suggesting that they take Makoto home is something in her personality. Now, in Kyoto’s version, Yuuichi just shows up back home with Makoto. I was hoping for a Nayuki “Wait, why are you bringing random lolis back when you have me?!?” face, but instead I get the incredulous “That’s a big hot pot ingredient!” face instead.
(Oh well. I think this outfit is very cute on Nayuki. Honestly, she could be wearing nothing, and I’d still find it… uh… nevermind.)
Loved Akiko’s “That’s a big hot pot ingredient!” Like mother; like daughter. I always wondered what Akiko did for a living. She and Nayuki live in a fairly large house, but we never see her doing any income producing activities? It could be anything– from day trading like GTO‘s Urumi’s mom to a large inheritance like Yoshitaka to being a madam for an escort service.
(And Yuuichis reaction to Akiko? Pure Kyon. Yuuichi reminded me more of those smug preppies in the 2002 version.)
A few differences: first off, Nayuki is a lot harsher on Yuuichi in 2002 and defends Makoto. They also don’t wake up Makoto and just let her sleep instead. Nayuki seems to have some of Belldandy’s easy going personality in 2006.
(Notice how Nayuki’s skirt in 2002 is a reasonable length of the dead of winter. In 2006, her skirt looks like she’s headed out for a night of clubbing in San Francisco.)
The side effect is that we’re treated now to the happy hot pot scene. The hot pot scene happens in the 2002 adaptation as well, but it’s the next day, and Makoto has run away and returned since. I never had Japanese-style hot pot before– in Chinese hot pot, we kinda lay out the incredients out on the table and put stuff in when we feel like it kinda like in 2002’s screenshot. I honestly got hungry watching this scene; one thing I miss about Michigan– much more enjoyable to eat hot pot when there’s two feet of snow outside… just not the same when it’s sunny and 82 in San Jose.
As much as I like what Kyoto’s animation prowess, I like Chibi Nayuki and Chibi Akito’s symmetrical o_o face more. Sorry Kyoto.
(Thinking that we need a hot pot scene for Mikuru, LOL FANG-TAN, and Ryoko where LOL FANG-TAN feeds Mikuru. It could be the first ever Haruhi Suzumiya pay-per-view special.)
Auuuuu~ sad girls indoors. If you were Yuuichi, how would you like being singled out by a girl who doesn’t even remember her own name. How heinous do you have to be to be remembered when everything else is forgotten?
“Priority number 1!”
Just out of curiousity, is Akiko an ending character in the game? Currently on my scoreboard, I have her ahead of pretty much everyone except Nayuki and the Mai/Sayuri tag-team.
The dynamic between Akiko and Nayuki is more Mikuru and All-Woman Mikuru-ish than what I remember in the 2002 version. This, of course, is a good thing. Quick– we need to Fed-Ex her some white blouses that are two sizes too small.
In the old version, Makoto remembers her name. In 2006, Yuuichi gives her a new name: Onimaru Miki, and Makoto doesn’t like it! I’m disappointed. It’s a great name! How can you not like “Onimaru Miki”?
The playa gets slapped. Try to juxtapose the image of Nayuki sitting calmly here and watching Makoto and Yuuichi get into a lover’s quarrel with the image of Mikuru even talking to Kyon with Haruhi in the background. Night and day, hun? I’m just waiting for Nayuki to break out the boxcutters and slash at Ayu while Ayu swings a bottle of soy sauce around.
I’m going to compare 2002’s animation quality vs 2006’s animation quality to the 2003 Detroit Tigers and the 2006 Detroit Tigers. I like how Kyoto even draw in some light leakage underneath the door.
(I’m rooting for Nayuki to show up with a camera taking pictures of Yuuichi’s sleeping face one of these episodes.)
Like a cat digging through garbage. OH SHI-
Kyoto’s patented Haruhi Suzumiya smirk. Take that Playboy! You can have your bunny girls— Japan has smirks!
Reminds me of Punk’d for some odd reason. I’m expecting to see Ashton Kutcher jump out and surprise both of them. Still, I’m impressed by the Solid Snake effort.
Awesome. I enjoyed this scene in both adaptations. Though Kyoto’s kinda gives something away by how Makoto reacts. I’m not a Makoto fan– in fact, I find her absolutely annoying. She’s the Gan-chan of Kanon.
Northern Japan, next time on Throwdown with Bobby Flay! Remember to bring your kotetsu!
I liked the dialogue… “Maybe you had an intimate relationship with her in the past?” “Did something happen between us seven years ago?” Uh, if they had an intimate relationship seven years ago, what would their ages be? 10-ish?
As much as I like winking girls in anime (and I do… see Sonozaki, Shion), you can’t top Kitagawa’s comment with Yuuichi blushing and Nayuki with a confused look afterwards.
Yuuichi ditches class, and Shiori finds him in the 2002 edition. Yuuichi ditches Nayuki, and Shiori wanders around like the sad girl in snow archetype that she is in the 2006 version. I kinda prefer the normal conversation that they had in 2002 where Yuuichi vents as Shiori listens and nods. The 2006 version is a bit weird with the introduction of the disease angle– yet– she’s walking around in a snowstorm. I’ve had fevers in the snow– you’re not going to be walking outside in a snowstorm with one– I don’t buy her explaination. Definitely seemed like Kyoto tried to hard to be artistic or melodramic and ended up creating a Higurashi no Naku Koro ni space-time anamoly.
(“I caught a fever.” “USO DA!”)
Snow so realistic, I just sneezed and turned on the heat. By the way, it’s 78 degrees outside, and girls were walking around in tank tops.
“Classified information!” Is it just me, or does Shiori look like Siesta? Speaking of which, Kanon desperately needs a meido. If Kyoto snuck one in, it’ll be the greatest achivement in anime since the last ten minutes of the Utena movie. (Tour de force of sexual imagery, both blatant and subtle.)
Lover’s quarrel between Nayuki and Yuuichi– uh-oh, we’re at orange-level alert for Nayuki’s boxcutters. This episode has just bee Yuuichi flirting and mackin’ on the ladies. His next project is Booty Call 2 costarring with Ginko.
“What do you think of my ass?”
Vastly different outcomes for Ayu’s charge of the light brigade. The 2002 version looks like a CSI crime scene.
Another divergent point– Akiko shows up and correctly identifies the girl who is with Yuuichi (hint, hint) while in 2006, Ayu and Yuuichi have a very Kyon conversation. I can picture Mikuru and Kyon pumping out the same lines. I think this scene is where we first hear Kaze no Tadori Tsuku Basho in the 2002 version. I don’t remember it earlier, but it definitely plays in the background during Akiko’s scene. Has an insert song ever become an OP/ED? Yes– Vestige became the OP to the “improved” GSD ending. As Twisp and Catsby would say, “Ominous.”
In the original series, Ayu tells Yuuichi and Akiko that she’s looking for something and runs off. Yuuichi and Akiko head back to have that hot pot dinner with Makoto. Kyoto is doing something a bit different in that they’re having Ayu and Yuuichi go around town trying to find this thing that she forgotten… with two clues: the menu and the cake store.
(For people who watched Elite-Fansub’s translation of the original series, at some point they pop up an overlay saying, “We’re not translating this sign because it’s a spoiler.” Well, that’s good– except because they pointed it out, I translated it. If they said nothing, I probably wouldn’t have noticed and gone on to watch Getbackers. I hope the fansub groups this time around just let the series flow and reveal as it pleases.)
If I were the street vendor who has been twice robbed by Ayu, would I still sell her tayuki? Or would I shoo her away everytime I see her?
Boy works fast. Makoto is domesticated much quicker in Kyoto’s version. Did I give out a spoiler? OH SHI-
I love Kyoto, and their endless cute outfits for Nayuki. And Makoto looks a lot older in the polo shirt.
For some strange reason, even though the same amount of plot has been covered by both series, Kyoto’s version seems slower. Maybe just a matter of perception because pretty much the same things happen, just Kyoto has more “dead time” like the scene where Yuuichi and Nayuki just watch Mai and Sayuri walk around them or when Yuuichi took his time surprising Makoto during her midnight snack. It also cuts out a few minor scenes like Yuuichi’s and Nayuki’s walk to school as well as Yuuichi’s notebook’s destruction.
Anyway, I’m still amazed someone who have a short skirt as a school uniform for such a cold, snowy place– Yoshitaka must have been involved. (In the 2002 version, we get a Mai panty shot. I think scarywater’s tracker just got a bump in traffic.)
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Tsk tsk. Once they start diverging in the meat of the arcs, you’re gonna be out of a job doing side by side comparisons. :-p Or at least, only have a couple 2002 shots per episode.
Man, if only there were spoiler tags here, I would remind you about the reason behind Shiori’s excuses.
Hint: Staying within the realm of logic, under what condition must a person be, if said person claims to have the cold, but stills walks around in the snow?
Cheers.
I’m just not feeling Kanon. I don’t hate it or anything- the girls look good, Yuuichi does an acceptable Kyon impression, I wonder where it’s all going- but it doesn’t click for me.
I would chalk it up to being an overstimulated action junkie, but for all they dominate my preferences my very favorite series are action-light. I don’t know what it is.
Jason says, “I always wondered what Akiko did for a living. She and Nayuki live in a fairly large house, but we never see her doing any income producing activities? It could be anything– from day trading like GTO’s Urumi’s mom to a large inheritance like Yoshitaka to being a madam for an escort service.”
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In my opinion? Black Widow.
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“(Notice how Nayuki’s skirt in 2002 is a reasonable length of the dead of winter. In 2006, her skirt looks like she’s headed out for a night of clubbing in San Francisco.)”
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It’s KyoAni. They’re notorious for employing insanely short skirts on their anime girls which defy lecherous otakus’ pantsu-seeking eyes time after time again.
Again, the fun is in the anticipation, not the flashing.
On the flip side… when KyoAni does animate fanservice, they do it with style. Fumoffu’s hotsprings, TSR twins, naked agent Chidori, Tessa’s OVA, etc…
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“Just out of curiousity, is Akiko an ending character in the game?”
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No.
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“I’m not a Makoto fan– in fact, I find her absolutely annoying. She’s the Gan-chan of Kanon.”
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Hope KyoAni’s version will change your mind. ^^; I liked Makoto’s story very much, and though I would not call her a favourite of mine, she is still very endearing.
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Random Thoughts:
..) I see Kaede’s influence has been very strong. This is not the first blog/post that joked about Nayuki going all psycho. I find this very amusing. :D Looks like all future ‘childhood friends’ will be viewed with blood-tinted glasses. XD
“She’s my childhood friend.”
*Oh shit! She’s gonna boxcutter him!*
Just like how when people discuss about anime male wimps, Shinji the Spineless, of NGE fame, comes to mind.
..) I look forward to Mai’s story. It is… very complicated.
Cheers.
I going to have to stop reading your Kanon posts :( I haven’t watched the original and know nothing of the story but I’ve figured out three major things from your hints. Can you please put the hints in white text like you usually do of spoilers.
I’m an idoit so I don’t understand the hints, yaay for me!
and Onimaru Miki? are you serious?
I find the pacing good, but I can’t compare it to the earlier version, which being 12 episodes, should have had a faster pacing. 24 episodes, yeah, just more time to take in KyoAni goodness.
Not having seen the original anime or story , this has been excellent so far.
The interesting thing is knowing there are twists and revelations coming but not knowing who or when- you get small clues but it’s not enough. Great stuff.
Hint: Staying within the realm of logic, under what condition must a person be, if said person claims to have the cold, but stills walks around in the snow?
Pathological Liar?
>>>I never had Japanese-style hot pot before– in Chinese hot pot, we kinda lay out the incredients out on the table and put stuff in when we feel like it kinda like in 2002’s screenshot.
You’re Chinese? I didn’t know that. And yes. Hot pot is the sh*t. My favorite sauce is sesame oil mixed with oyster sauce with a pinch of salt. My favorite ingredient is fake crab meat and beef. Mmmm….
hot pot is best with extreme spicy sauce! live it up sichuan style
however, i can’t stop noticing that Akiko started by saying she gonna do Oden, but they ended up eating Nabe for some reason (the difference is Oden is individual serving in small pot, while nabe is sit around one huge pot as shown in the ep)
>>>Thinking that we need a hot pot scene for Mikuru, LOL FANG-TAN, and Ryoko >>>where LOL FANG-TAN feeds Mikuru. It could be the first ever Haruhi Suzumiya >>>pay-per-view special
good news, it did happen in the book, so chances are we will see it eventually
>>> Ryan A
>>> Onimaru Miki? are you serious?
殺æ‘凶å Satsumura Kyouko, literally means the angry (scary) lady that killed whole village
point out, i believe Satsumura Kyouko bit was in the original game, it’s 2002 ver that left it out
Soemthing about this episode makes me think that it will turn into Higurashi, I don’t know why. Could be the high potential for killer loli introductions. Will we see Ayu lick blood off her Taiyuki anytime soon? I certainly hope so > . > Quick, spot the killer loli Higurashi counterparts with each girl!
>>>hot pot is best with extreme spicy sauce! live it up sichuan style
I am from Si Chuan, Cheng Du to be exact… I bet you 10 Haruhi points that I can eat spicier than you.
I have to see a motherly throw-down with Akiko and Chigusa, seeing how they’re both the Mothers of the year.
And…doesn’t everyone look like siesta these days?
>>In my opinion? Black Widow.
Yeah. And she poisons them with her jam, which leaves no traces for the autopsy.
>>I’m not a Makoto fan– in fact, I find her absolutely annoying.
Wow, I feel insulted. She was my favorite in the previous version (followed by Mai and Nayuki). Too bad her story is arguably the most depressing one (tied with Ayu’s IMO). But I do recon she is annoying at first.
>>The 2006 version is a bit weird with the introduction of the disease angle
As far as I remember, 2002 version also had Shiori saying she had a cold. And actually, that’s the whole point, she saying that she has a cold while we are left wondering if she is lying or not.
>>Lover’s quarrel between Nayuki and Yuuichi– uh-oh, we’re at orange-level alert for Nayuki’s boxcutters.
Yeah, I also thought of that. I guess Shuffle! DID have an impact on the anime fandom, after all. But yeah, Yuuichi should stop being such a playa, how can he be hitting on so many girls when he’s got a healthy (and _willing_) cousin? ^^
(And his aunt wouldn’t mind, actually. He should know better)
>>For people who watched Elite-Fansub’s translation of the original series, at some point they pop up an overlay saying, “We’re not translating this sign because it’s a spoiler.â€
That was so lame back then. Japanese are the ones supposed to watch that, and they would easily read what the sign said. Why would those stupid fansubbers not translate that? But anyways, I saw that coming a mile away, and my weak weeaboo powers back then already could read Hiragana (and the first kanji was so obvious to me), so I easily got that :S
And you are right, if they hadn’t popped up that overlay, I might have ignored the sign.
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BTW, we should have more scenes with Kitagawa and Kyonichi together. The GAR level of the two Tomokazu gets squared when they are together.
Well… after 3 episodes of Kyoto’s Kanon version, I’m not sure what else they could add (I never played the PC-game) for do a 24-episode series. Who cares anyway…
One more thing, Kyoto gaves a lot more spoilers in every episode than 2002 version, if you know what I mean…
While you were covering the spoilers, I think you shoulda covered teh part where Ayu didn’t know what a cell was.
>>I think this scene is where we first hear Kaze no Tadori Tsuku Basho in the 2002 version.
actually they play Last Regrets
I don’t know if the “That’s a big hot pot ingredient” gag was in the game, but I came across the manga version of Kanon where Akiko said the same thing.
I also liked how, as a convention, the gag was repeated three times. XD *goes off to watch Gunsou while waiting for Nayuki*
Two questions I have about the midnight snack scene. How did Makoto’s reletively minor commotion wake Nayuki-of-the-hundred-alarms-sama and why aren’t they out of breath considering how quickly they shot out of bed and downstairs?
>>If I were the street vendor who has been twice robbed by Ayu, would I still sell her tayuki? Or would I shoo her away everytime I see her?
Different street vendors each time.
>>The 2006 version is a bit weird with the introduction of the disease angle– yet– she’s walking around in a snowstorm. I’ve had fevers in the snow– you’re not going to be walking outside in a snowstorm with one– I don’t buy her explaination.
She must be Yuki Onna or a citizen of the former Soviet Union. The way she circled Yuuichi like a shark makes me think she ran a camp along Kolyma under the aegis of The Chief Directorate of Corrective Labour Camps and Colonies.
>>If I were the street vendor who has been twice robbed by Ayu, would I still sell her tayuki? Or would I shoo her away everytime I see her?
I’d shoot on sight, plead that martial law had been declared, and the uguu meant “Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer!” Besides the Taiyaki Cooks Guild just created a wanted poster of that theiving little wretch.
Rikaishi says, “Two questions I have about the midnight snack scene. How did Makoto’s reletively minor commotion wake Nayuki-of-the-hundred-alarms-sama and why aren’t they out of breath considering how quickly they shot out of bed and downstairs?”
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Nayuki’s “Yuuichi’s Playing With Other Girls” sensor got triggered. :p
>> Can you please put the hints in white text like you usually do of spoilers.
I’m not telling you anything but pointing out things. Still, I don’t think spoilers for Kanon are crucial– it’s not about the ending; it’s about how we get there.
>> My favorite ingredient is fake crab meat and beef.
I like the fish balls with egg inside. Delicious.
>> actually they play Last Regrets
You, sir, are correct. I was sleepy. :)
>> Wow, I feel insulted. She was my favorite in the previous version (followed by Mai and Nayuki).
Wait, you’re insulted because I don’t like a fictional character as much as you do? I think you need to step back from the keyboard, go outside, and enjoy the sunshine (or snow) for a while. Step back to the keyboard when you regained your senses.
>> And…doesn’t everyone look like siesta these days?
Only in my dreams.
>> It’s KyoAni. They’re notorious for employing insanely short skirts on their anime girls which defy lecherous otakus’ pantsu-seeking eyes time after time again.
The skirts for the game and the original series are just as short– it’s not a Kyoto Animation fabrication. In fact, the original series had its share of panty shots.
>> On the flip side… when KyoAni does animate fanservice, they do it with style. Fumoffu’s hotsprings, TSR twins, naked agent Chidori, Tessa’s OVA, etc…
You’re forgetting– bunny girls!
@jason:
Sorry, I didn’t meant it that way. I think it is within the range of normal expectations that someone may feel kinda insulted when they say his favorite character is annoying. But it’s just that, if you find her annoying, well, I can’t do nothing about it *shrugs*. There are plenty of good characters on this show, and Makoto ranking last for you is not a strange ocurrence.
*sigh* Couldn’t you quote any of my _other_ comments? :(
> By the way, it’s 78 degrees outside, and girls were walking around in tank tops.
And yet you didn’t post any of those shots eh? Uguuuu!!
>> Yeah, I also thought of that. I guess Shuffle! DID have an impact on the anime fandom, after all. But yeah, Yuuichi should stop being such a playa, how can he be hitting on so many girls when he’s got a healthy (and _willing_) cousin? ^^
The beauty of Shuffle was that Kaede’s outburst came out of nowhere– IRL, that’s what I expect more than the traditional anime response. The next step, of course, is to have the first ever John Bobbit in anime.
(But I’d settle for the girls appearing on Jerry Springer and hashing it out there while 300 pound aunts scream in the background.)
>> If I were the street vendor who has been twice robbed by Ayu, would I still sell her tayuki? Or would I shoo her away everytime I see her?
Eeh…why does that always happen to me…never mind…