kyoto and lucky star
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Reader Skane points out that Kyoto Animation’s next project is Lucky Star. You can grab a scanlated first chapter from EP here. Does this mean that we shouldn’t be expecting more Haruhi for at least a year? And is it just me, or does Izumi look like Shana? (Somewhat related, new poll asks for your favorite production house. I don’t expect Gonzo to place highly.)
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Focus, KyoAni! I want you to take this upcoming big win in the poll and sweep it into a huge remake triumph. We’re talking Escaflowne, Love Hina, SnS, Ai Yori Aoshi, and all the classics, plus instant hits from unknown diamonds in the rough!
HELLZ YEAH KYOTOANI FTW!
Jc Staff is awesome also Le Chevalier D’eon is awesome.
GITS was a piece of art also.
I am glad people realize what GOOD animation is ^.^
So we’re getting the Melancholy of Shana…at least we have march madness.
I believe in the secret ballot, so Any one but Gainax! Death to Shinji! Death to Gendo! For the Glory of Haruhi-sama!
Don’t ask more than it can chew. Once KyoAni bites down to over-obsessive demands of multiple anime productions and starts multi-tasking multiple like every other anime studios out there, I highly doubt GOOD animation will be KyoAni’s unofficial motto.
What KyoAni needs to do is start expanding their employer base so that their company can retain quality poportional to quantity, churn out original anime productions, prove their niche in the business by doing more than just 1/2 seasons of anime while maintaining their business standing and quality and start bridging around. Then we will see something then.
That being said, Kyoto Animation should rename itself as Novel Animation, Madhouse as Mangahouse, and J.C Staff as M.O.E Staff, Sunrise/BONES as Jack of All Trades, and Ghibli as King of Kings Studio.
Does anybody else feel that the current poll is a little… erm… 1-sided? ^^;
Where’s the SHAFT option for PPD?
Where’s our second season of Haruhi!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Lucky*Star sounds promising. We’ll see after Kanon finishes and KyoAni take their quarter-year break…
Just because a show is good does not mean it’s a good idea to make a sequel. Haruhi should have had more episodes, but it didn’t. It’s over. It was good. Maybe they will make a sequel, but I’d be shocked if they could make a good one.
Well it’s not like there’s a shortage of material to make the ‘sequel’ with. There’s at least six whole volumes out there, and they only covered one and a half. At this point, a ‘sequel’ would just be another batch of episodes. it’s not like what Gainax did with Gunbuster, or what Sunrise did with the many, MANY Gundam series, where new storylines were made specifically to continue the series.
Man Jace… no SHAFT? Or 7Arcs? Or even UFOTable? I think between the three of them, CRS is the only show that hasn’t been wonderful.
Is it me or is pretty much everyone voting for Kyoto Animation? Yeah, no surprise. Alrighty, I will go vote for my second favorite just to be special: yay, madhouse! Black Lagoon = enough said.
YAY for 2 week old ‘news’! :/
Lucky Star’s voicecast is really interesting me!
According to this wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucky_%E2%98%86_Star
There are the seiyu of Alice from ‘Aria’, Ryo Hirohashi. There are also Mai Nakahara, Ai Shimizu, Mamiko Noto and Yukari Tamura. I am sold. And I am curious to see what KyoAni gonna pull from a 4-koma based series.
those CV are from drama CD i think, it remains to be seen if gonna be the same for anime (though a good bet it will be)
UFOTable sure has alot potential, as shown in futakoi alt, though CRS was a bit draw back, and it’s really not a very buzy studio, hope it can turn out 1 high quality anime every 2 season
UFOTable also did Tristia and 2×2=Shinobuden, both of which were quite good. CRS was their first even mediocere show.
SHnY debuts in Keroro Gunso,
Haruhi & Yuki
Cheers.
>>>Just because a show is good does not mean it’s a good idea to make a sequel. Haruhi should have had more episodes, but it didn’t. It’s over. It was good. Maybe they will make a sequel, but I’d be shocked if they could make a good one.
That’s like saying Tolkien shouldn’t have written the Two Towers and Return of the King after he wrote The Fellowship of the Ring. In other words, it’s not a “sequel” because the story isn’t over.
Beowulf,
Bull. Fellowship didn’t bring anything like closure to the story, and the entire story was planned together, as a complete work. This adaptation was also planned as a complete work and had sufficient (I thought) closure at the end of the show, even if there *is* more source material to draw from.
Making a sequel from a story that ended usually ends up looking contrived (“Quick John, the Evil Robots are attacking…AGAIN!”), and I think that would most likely be the case here. I will grant you: I haven’t read all the rest of the light novels; it *might* be possible to create another greater story into which the first series fits neatly. But I doubt it.
Skane Says:
SHnY debuts in Keroro Gunso…
That is beyond awesome. You could say…omega post of the year? Anime referencing anime is teh win.
Next week’s episode:
Mois-dono gets a DEA** NO** from one of her Shini**** friends (a demon with crow wings wearing a black robe and a sword) and gives it to Keroro to use on all the world’s leaders, but before he can use it, Tamama gets jealous and accidentally destroys it in an attempt to show her up. Natsumi finds out and hilarity ensues.
>>>Bull. Fellowship didn’t bring anything like closure to the story, and the entire story was planned together, as a complete work. This adaptation was also planned as a complete work and had sufficient (I thought) closure at the end of the show, even if there *is* more source material to draw from.
All decent books have “closures”, with sequels or no sequels. Sure Kyo didn’t plan ahead on making the rest, but they definitely did NOT plan it to end. The show does make enough sense within itself, but extending on my analogy, so does The Fellowship. The show, either with the anachronical ending or with the chronological ending did not have a “sufficient” closure, because it frankly makes you beg for more. This is the right decision, IMO, because the books aren’t finished yet.
>>>Making a sequel from a story that ended usually ends up looking contrived (â€Quick John, the Evil Robots are attacking…AGAIN!â€), and I think that would most likely be the case here. I will grant you: I haven’t read all the rest of the light novels; it *might* be possible to create another greater story into which the first series fits neatly. But I doubt it.
Look at it this way, you’re saying that if Kyo had planned 24 episodes instead of 14, the show would have become repetitive and sucked. I disagree, I think there’s definitely more things to be done with the story and still maintain the audience’s full attention.
You’re begging the question on your last sentence, as Melancholy did not have a “great story”. It had a PREMISE-skeleton plot with branches of short stories. So, if Kyo was to make more Haruhi, it wouldn’t need to “fit neatly in”. It would just need to continue on with what happens.
Note that I’m not saying that Kyo should animate everything that the author writes. If Haruhi went Pokemon, it would become a bore.
>>> Seth
>>> Making a sequel from a story that ended usually ends up looking contrived
SHnY just hardly started, all the foreshadow in the series are still unanswered
july 7th, tree frog custume, kyon eating nabe while wear reindeer hat, haruhi ask kyon “have we met before?”, computer club president’s girlfriend etc
just way too many unanswered details to left alone
Yay! KyoAni leading with 60%, now i feel sorry for the others
>>>Migs
>>>That being said, Kyoto Animation should rename itself as Novel Animation, Madhouse as Mangahouse, and J.C Staff as M.O.E Staff, Sunrise/BONES as Jack of All Trades, and Ghibli as King of Kings Studio.
lol, you got a point there
Gonzo is fine……………as long as you don’t read the manga/novel as in Gankutsuoh/NHK/Black cat, story might be bad but animation is great
Plus, KyoAni didn’t actually CHANGE much of anything from the books. They ended where they did because that was the end of VOLUME ONE. There’s five or six MORE volumes out there.
Once again, you’re talking like KyoAni gave things a definitive ending, when they didn’t. They just ended where volume one ended, leaving volume 2, 3, 4, etc. It’s more like if Peter Jackson hadn’t done the second and third LoTR movies and stopped after the first. KyoAni isn’t making *new* material, they’re adapting EXISTING materiel, with relatively limited changes.
There’s a pretty major change in the adapted Haruhi: presentation chronology. Furthermore, selecting what parts of the source material to include is a significant adaptation choice, even if those parts are presented without much further alteration from the source.
I, personally, felt that Haruhi did have adequate closure. If you didn’t, well, that’s your opinion.
The main point is: just because I like a show or movie or book a whole damn lot doesn’t mean I want there to be more of it. This would be one of those cases.
And Fellowship of the Ring ends on a ^#$#%! cliffhanger, so I really don’t see how any rational person can claim it as an apt analogy.
There’s 8 books and counting last I checked. We’ve used all of book 1, technically none of book 2 (but it’s the making of the movie, so really, all but 1 or 2 episodes worth has been summarized), book 3 still has an episode left in it, book 4 is totally untouched and would work just fine as the core for a second season, book 5 is mostly untouched, as is book 6, and 7 and 8 are up for grabs too.
It’s not like the context of those books suck or anything either. I’d say the one story from book 3 they skipped out on is a good deal better than Mysterique Sign for instance.
Let me clarify part of my previous comment:
The presentation chronology is particularly significant in this case, because I believe much of the episode shuffle was done explicitely *to give the series closure*.
well, compare SHnY to FMP, both light novel consist of main plot and side stories
the first FMP series had closure also, it covers boy meets girl, one night stand and into the blue with a bunch side stories, just like SHnY covers melancholy and a bunch side stories
then we get Fumoffu that’s just a bunch side stories and day by day in TSR, and i can imagine kyoani doing same thing with july 7th, endless aug, snow mountain trip, and, of cus vanishing
after that, we can look forward to intrigues and indignation just like we looking forward to very merry christmas, one my own, one man force, and make my day
these 2 series both dug too many hole that left unfilled, i just don’t see they would leave it like that
i guess same can be said about ZnT, but the difference between novel and anime is huge in that case
the chronology in the SHnY novel are screwed up also. i’m sure kyoani did the ep shuffle to achive something, but i doubt it’s for closure
on the other hand, i read novel 1-6 before the anime come out, so i wouldn’t know how someone who never read the novels would feel. quite possibly those people would find closure in SHnY anime
If you ask me, it was to pad out the season to 12-14 episodes. The first volume was only what, six episodes? Five? I don’t remember anymore. They would’ve had to either stretch it out (not reccommended, considering they did a nearly 1:1 conversion from print to animation. They’d’ve had to stretch it out to double, or had it be only six episodes, as none of the other volumes really *work* on their own except as random ‘filler’. They would’ve had to have it either exactly the way they did it, have it have a bigass cliffhanger, like LoTR, ended out the series with random episodes, or done part of Volume 2, the making of the movie, and nothing else. The way they did it was the only way it could possibly have been satisfying. Does that mean animating MORE of what’s already been written, to fill out the blanks (Such as the talking cat, the frog costume, the Tanabata festival which was mentioned…) is a bad idea? Unlikely But is it a GOOD idea? Opinions obviously differ on that.
That said, they obviously had to give *that* series closure. There would’ve been a riot if they had done any differently. But there’s been many, many series that have taken a break, and then gone on to a second series that was a success. Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha, for instance. Dragonball Z and GT, though opinions vary wildly on that one..Rozen Maiden.. (Okay, those are the only ones I can think of at the moment that were split into multiple series…c’mon, it’s one in the morning, gimme a break.)
Wow, for once there’s an internet argument where both sides are valid. Usually it’s dumb vs dumber.
That said, I’m throwing my hat into the ring on the side of “give me more Haruhi.” As others have said, there’s a lot of story left to tell, not the least of which is book four, which would be a crime against nature not to animate, and the remaining chapter of book three that was not animated, the Genesis chapter one of the Bible of Haruhiism, Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody. Those would get you seven episodes easy, and when you add in the potpourri that is the remainder of books five and six, the complete stories of seven and eight (or is eight two stories?), and book two, which could be either shown complete or edited down to meet episode count or minimize rehash, and you could close out the Haruhi mythos with just about a full 26 episode season.
I understand the arguments against. First and foremost, although no one has come right out and said it, people are afraid a Haruhi sequel would suck. I understand that fear. Sequels do have an annoying tendency to suck, or at the very least, not be as good as the original. However, you have to take into account that KyoAni has shown themselves to be pretty damn good at the whole sequel business so far (FMP, anyone?) and there is some GOOD story left untold in the remainder of the eight (so far) Haruhi books. Book four alone could anchor the second series as well as book one anchored the first.
Second, the first series had closure, and “Making a sequel from a story that ended usually ends up looking contrived.” Well, this is one argument I don’t really get. First of all, the series had some pretty open-ended closure, whether you’re talking about the chronological not-in-the-books walk-off-into-the-rain-under-one-umbrella ending of Someday in the Rain, or the broadcast ending of MoSH VI, which ended the first book (once again, there *have* been seven books since, both literally and chronologically by the storyline). Since most anime end with some variation or combination of either the Hamlet “everybody dies” ending (Bebop) or the Return of the Jedi “the world has changed fundamentally” ending (Trigun), I think Haruhi is practically screaming for a sequel. Also, as said before, there some pretty good non-contrived stuff in the remainder of the books, so nothing has to be made up.
Either way, sooner or later there will be some kind of Haruhi resurrection–whether it’s a KyoAni sequel, some OVAs, a live-action movie or series, or a Kanon-esque remake by some other studio–that’s going to consist entirely of or at least include a lot of the additional material. The novels are still popular enough and contain enough usable material that there’s too much money to be made off of it, whether it turns out good or bad, for someone not to do it.
Personally, I’d rather see KyoAni do it right than have Sunrise bring back Ryoko from the Recycle Bin wearing an opera mask and devote a subplot to Mikuru’s and Kunikida’s budding romance, or have Gonzo make Kyon whiny and submissive and slash the animation budget after episode five.
And I do love how this post, like so many others, has turned into a Haruhi argument/discussion. We’re still talking about the show months later, but more recent things are largely ignored. Anybody heard anything about the new Evangelion movies lately?
Erm… BLR is at best two episodes long, three tops. It is not that long. My suggestion for BLR is to make it into an OVA. It is a short story that can stand on its’ own to supplement the original first season. It would be awkward to fuse it with Vol.04.
If KyoAni ever decides to make a second season, the core has to be Vo.04, because that is the only volume, besides Vol.02, where the entire volume is one story( instead of a collection of short stories).
The flipside would be the Fumoffu style, where every episode is a standalone.
Cheers.
well, intrigues is a standalone whole stories also, but it is much more advanced chronologicly, i don’t see it been animated before vanishing (4, and 7 are definitly the 2 book that i enjoyed most)
Haruhi’s a set of smaller stories, with ones main general ‘plot’ linking them.
And with all the jumping around the first season did just in itself, like in some points leaping from chapters from the first into other novels I really don’t see that there would be any sort of problem in slotting in various of the other stories from the novel. Snow Mountain Syndrome, Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody etc.
And just so long as KyoAni kept as strongly to the orginal story as they did in Season 1, unlike certain other sequels *coughcoughSchool Rumblecough*, then I’m sure another 14 episodes of season 2 would be just as enjoyable. Especially if we see some alternate Nagato =)
Yes I said 14. Two reasons, the first being we get it sooner, and the second it’s the sort of number that means the series is kept sharp and to the point *coughSchoolRumbleagain*, and people could still easily be begging for more at the end of it.
Why are you even discussing the TV shuffle? The DVD release has (almost) all episodes in chronological order – the TV shuffle is now worthless IMHO. It was pointless (why didn’t they stick with it on DVD?) and probably only done to finish the more flashy episodes in time.
“It was pointless (why didn’t they stick with it on DVD?) and probably only done to finish the more flashy episodes in time.”
Pointless? Those who know about the novels would argue that there is a perfectly vaild reason to do what they did. And it IS true the flashier episodes are near the end of the series; but isn’t that the whole point? Who would put the flashier episodes at the start and leave slice-of-life at the end?
I can’t believe we are still arguing about this… If KyoAni is short on time, they would simply decrease animation quality. Shuffling makes things harder, not easier, for the animation staff. This isn’t a shortcut method.
uhmm would u mind uploading Lucky Star again? on rapid share xD
ive been wanting to see it but no seeders on, one more time on rapid share? onegai? ^-^
Feels like KyoAni is trying to surpass their sucess with Hare Hare Yukai using the Lucky Star OP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rofLfSP0qvk
I don’t like the song that much but the dance moves are catchy!