gurren lagann r1 in jeopardy
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I was wondering how the hell would ADV screw up the release of Gurren Lagann, and, well, it looks like they found a way. Seems like ADV has pulled most of their new releases from their website. Speculation is running rampant from “they lost their credit line” to “they’re just updating their website.” In either case, cue flame war between the r1 purchasers and the fansub downloaders.
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OH NOES! IT’S R(1)MAGEDDON!
Maybe. I’m trying to maintain a positive outlook at the moment, but the lack of comment is becoming rather disconcerting given that there’s no way that ADV can’t be aware of the s**t-storm this has kicked off on the legit sites…
I’m just worried about the dub quality more than when it’s coming out, myself.
‘Welcome to the experience of powerlessness. Your prayer mat is in the corner.’
Do those of us who do both get our own side?
“R1’s in jeopardy…baby…ooooooooohooooOOooohhh…”
Same thought train as DiGiKerot here, I really do think that this is a lot of panic over nothing but I can’t help but sweat at the lack of official comment on this.
It seems like a strange list to pull, personally, considering that I thought a lot of these titles would be huge hits (5cm, Gurren, maybe Kanon), but maybe that’s me confusing mainstream anime culture with blogger anime culture.
In any case, I wish that the anime industry in the U.S. didn’t get made out to be such a house of cards all the time, every time something vaguely bad happens it’s The End of The World As We Know It.
(Incidentally, does anyone remember the warning signs before Geneon went down?)
Fire sales and a deal with ADV that was suddenly resceinded by both parties. I’ve been wondering since then if it was a case of both parties jumping in bed together, only to go “Oh geass no, you’ve got the clap too?”.
> It seems like a strange list to pull, personally, considering that I thought a lot
> of these titles would be huge hits (5cm, Gurren, maybe Kanon)
Whilst ADV (claims to have) turned a profit on Air, I can’t imagine it did that well, nor would I expect Kanon to do that much better. Aside from Gurren, the other title on that list which I’d have expected to do serious numbers is actually Devil May Cry, and if that is being pulled it’ll put ADV is a very strange position (in that a few thousand copies of Volume 1 are supposed to be shipping with the PS3 LE of DMC4 in a few weeks time).
If these titles have been dropped, it’s more likely due to ADV not having any choice rather than them willingly having done so. Given the lack of comment, Sojitz walking is increasingly looking to be the most likely cause, probably resulting in the loss of licenses. It probably wouldn’t kill ADV, but I wouldn’t expect to see them release many new titles any time soon…
arg….. This makes collecting series a pain. I agree with the first forum poster on the first link. I wish they would just release the entire thing in boxset. I’ll buy it all at one time. All up for that.
People might want to go check the latest posts on those AoD and ANN forum threads – the latest updates aren’t sounding too good on the short term…
I read a post on the ANN message board that ICv2 Newｓ ran an article regarding this. Of course the article　is no longer available but thanks to Google it has been cached.
You can google it by using using adv cancels 37 titles
The gist of it is this:
ADV Cancels 37 Titles
Anime Offerings on ‘Indefinite Hiatus’
Canceled
January 28, 2008
In a letter to retailers ADV Films has identified 37 anime properties including Devil May Cry, Gurren Lagann, and Pumpkin Scissors that are “on indefinite hiatus, effective immediately.” The list includes virtually all of the properties that ADV has announced since its financing deal with the Sojitz Corporation (see “Japanese Investment Bulks Up ADV”) in late June of 2006. The properties that ADV has announced (and released) since then are from a variety of anime studios but they were all licensed through the ARM Corporation, a subsidiary of Japan Contents Investment, an investor group that included the Sojitz Corporation, the Development Bank of Japan and KlockWorx. In its letter to retailers ADV explained: “ADV has suspended certain elements of its former alliance with ARM Corporation, which financed the acquisition of these titles. ADV is working closely with various constituencies with the goal of restoring most if not all of these properties to our release schedule at a later date to the extent possible.”
The list includes properties that have already been released in their entirety such as Nerima Daikon Brothers, Guyver, and 009-1, series such as Pumpkin Scissors, Kurau Phantom Memory, and Red Garden that have only been partially released, and eagerly awaited anime such as Devil May Cry, Gurren Lagann and 5 Centimeters per Second that have been announced for later this year. The complete list of ADV anime properties on hiatus is:
009-01
5cm Per Second
Ah! My Goddess: Flights of
Fancy
Air Gear
Air Movie
Air TV series
Best Student Council
Blade of the Phantom Master
Comic Party Revolution
Coyote Ragtime
Devil May Cry
Ghost Train
Gurren Lagann
Guyver
Innocent Venus
Jinki: Extend
Kanon TV Series
King of Bandit Jing: 7th Heaven
Kurau Phantom Memory
Le Chevalier D’Eon
Magikano
Moeyo Ken TV Series
Moonlight Mile
Nerima Daikon Brothers
Pani Pani Dash!
Project Blue
Pumpkin Scissors
Red Garden
Synethesia
The Wallflower
Tokyo Majin
UFO Princess Valkyrie – Third
and Fourth Seasons
Utawarerumono
Venus vs. Virus
Welcome to the NHK
Xenosaga
Coming on the heels of Geneon’s departure (see “Geneon Ankles American Anime Scene”) the ADV announcement is more bad news for the reeling North American Anime Industry. For the past few years ADV has been the number two anime company in the North America, with a solid 12-13% share of the anime DVD market. Recently though ADV has been showing signs of stress. It has pulled its support from its industry-leading collection of anime clubs and two weeks ago announced that it would cease publication of Newtype USA (see “Newtype USA Ending”). The collapse of ADV’s deal with ARM does not necessarily mean the end of one of the trailblazing American anime companies, which was founded in 1992. ADV still has an extensive library of titles including the ever-popular Neon Genesis Evangelion. Still the fate of ADV subsidiaries such as The Anime Network, the Newtype successor PiQ (see “Newtype Successor Broadens Focus”), and the ADV manga publishing program that includes the bestselling Yotsuba&! manga remains in the balance as does the future of one of the pioneering powerhouses of the American anime market.
Key part: In its letter to retailers ADV explained: “ADV has suspended certain elements of its former alliance with ARM Corporation, which financed the acquisition of these titles. ADV is working closely with various constituencies with the goal of restoring most if not all of these properties to our release schedule at a later date to the extent possible.â€.
Needs more Darry.
The key fact is that ADV (was #1 but now) is #2 in the American anime industry. Within a niche market. Selling you crap.
And yes. You guys are confusing the mainstream anime culture with the blogger anime culture. Why would any self-respecting person want to put money on crap that is either pretentious (Kyoto Ani), hits too close to home (Welcome to NHK), was created a hypocritical anti-otaku-but-pro-boobies company (Gainax), and is just not something you’d enjoy when you’re in a bad mood?
When you run a business; your goal is to get as much money from as many wallets as you possibly can. (Michael Bay is laughing all the way to the bank at you anime bloggers.) Plus; America’s about standing up while Japan is about shutting up. I’m surprised that this shake-up didn’t happen sooner.
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What do you have besides the late-night animu that keeps you from being lonely? Stay out of general society if you’re so afraid of it.
KyouAni is pretty amazing. Their animation quality is even better than Disney films. AirTV was the reason I started watching anime.