responses: melancholy of haruhi suzumiya 2009 8

The long national nightmare is finally over. I finally finished reading all the comments to a Haruhi post.

kaze: Jason I don’t care if it was a typo Haruhi and Kyou would be a crazy hot couple. I’m not sure what the space time implications of rubbing two epic tsundere’s together would be but I’m willing to risk the alpha quadrant to find out.

I decided against fixing the spelling mistake. I kinda like it better this way to say the least.

(Speaking of recent, hawt lesbian couplings… have you seen Octavia and Morgan in Tears to Tiara? Between the Albion Two Towers-like defense, Arthur’s Return of the King-like plot, and Octavia’s and Morgan’s blossoming love, Tears to Tiara has just been a vastly underrated series. And we haven’t even touched on Limwris’ awesomeness. I’m enjoying it.)

ElementOs: Despite bogging down the series, that final scene in the cafe was pretty epic. I loved Haruhi’s reaction and the background music? That was some serious John Williams shit right there, I dig it. Classy little bit at the end with Koizumi and Kyon as well.

I didn’t feel like it was epic. I just felt it ended, we’re glad to be done, and anything that ended it would have been great. Is it up to Simon vs. Anti-spiral standards? No. Is it up to the standards of the end of the Watanagashi arc? No. It is up to Arthur leading his men back to save Albion? No.

(Again, Tears to Tiara… I feel like I haven’t pimped this show enough recently.)

El: You know, Haruhi could of been THE anime of the early 21st century. It could of set the standard for everything, it would of achieved the greatest honor of all: Best Anime of the Decade. However, seeing as how they squandered that chance, the title for the best anime shall now fall to Gurren Lagann.

I would probably place Gurren Lagann in the top ten, but it suffers a lot from having less cultural significance than Stand Alone Complex let alone Haruhi Suzumiya. Gurren Lagann is definitely well-written, incorporates a lot of themes, and is highly entertaining, but it’s not up to Evangelion‘s standards.

(And Evangelion, without question, is the anime of the 90s. If you think otherwise, then I have some magic beans to sell you.)

Kaisos: Haruhi would never have been THE anime of the decade. It’s not the best show out there, it’s one of the most popular and unfortunately overhyped ones.

When people say things like “Tom Brady would never have been the quarterback of the decade,” I get a look on my face that says, “Great, I’m talking with someone who knows nothing about the NFL.”

(In this scenario, Haibane Renmei would be Bubby Brister.)

Phocus: I heard that they are airing a recap episode about Endless Eight

If next week were a recap episode… it would be the second ballsiest move ever (the first being running yet another Endless Eight). But other conspiracy theories aside, Haruhi once again dominates all discussion, and they didn’t have to do any real work (just antagonize their tsundere fanbase). I’m still marveling that my Haruhi posts get so much more traffic than my Ghostory posts. People like to complain. It’s human nature. It’s internet nature. It’s just the way it is. If you cater to the complainers, you’ll always get more eyeballs than if you point to positives, hence why Rush Limbaugh is the most popular hot air balloon model in the US.

dood: Best craziness-to-hawtness ratio goes to Yuno and Yukiteru from Mirai Nikki of course.

Forgot about them, but I’m not sure about Yuno’s hawtness. Kyou, Senjougahara, Lulu, Rena… just a different league than Yuno in that respect. But she is just as bat-shit insane… so Yuno and Yuki are in the conversation, but I don’t think they’re the clear favorites.

torinostu351: (why no Mariya and Kanako?)

They should be added to the conversation too. This is an interesting combo… is Mariya the one who is crazy and hawt, or is Kanako the one who is crazy and hawt? Or are we the crazy ones in this scenario?

Niles: Shut up, crazy foo! >_< I'm trying my darndest to forget the A-Team were ever lapdogs for The Man.

I still can’t believe that they never made a movie for A-Team back when Mr. T was still healthy… if we can have Brady Bunch, GI Joe, and Bewitched movies, why can’t we have an A-Team movie?

(You know what’s a million dollar idea? A live-action Black Lagoon movie. I would even support the train wreck-but-entertaining route with Zac Efron as Rock, Rosario Dawson as Revy, Samuel L Jackson as Dutch, and Jeff Goldblum as Benny. Like you wouldn’t enjoy seeing a boat crash into a helicopter in mid-air again.)

MrFox: What really puzzles me is why they paint the solution as some complexed mystery in previous episodes for the audience to solve, when Kyon gets the right answer by accident with very little thought into at all. It really makes the whole loop thing rather pointless when the solution can be pulled out of Kyon’s ass.

It’s called “poor writing.” Endless Eight was really a throwaway story, and the level of writing in Haruhi isn’t really greater than Keroro or Harry Potter. Just pulp to feed the masses their Mikuru moe and Itsuki flames. Just Kyoto did such a good job the first time around, it covered up a lot of the poor writing. Live Alive wasn’t really anything special in the novels, but Kyoto hit a home run with it and made it 500% better than what it was. Just now with Endless Eight… I think they’ve made it 15,532% worse than what it was.

(It’s like the first time you meet a cute girl, maybe you don’t see her warts. By the 15,532nd time, you’ll see them. Literally, figuratively both, whatever.)

-rh-: Delicious henpecking Haruhi redeemed everything for me. God, I’m such a sucker for tsunderes. Oh, and if you’re coming, I’m coming too, Haruhi. If you know what I mean.

I’m thinking maybe Haruhi wants to be ordered around by Kyon (or Kyou even)… wouldn’t that be the greatest turn of events? Haruhi becoming the Kanako to Kyon’s Mariya…

Chrisso: I love God, my mother, my family, and Kyon for growing balls

Yep… these are my readers.

22 Responses to “responses: melancholy of haruhi suzumiya 2009 8”

  1. how would you define good writing jason miao

  2. Guy above me is one of the ones that hasn’t read the Ghostory posts lmao

  3. >(You know what’s a million dollar idea? A live-action Black Lagoon movie. I would even support the train wreck-but-entertaining route with Zac Efron as Rock, Rosario Dawson as Revy, Samuel L Jackson as Dutch, and Jeff Goldblum as Benny. Like you wouldn’t enjoy seeing a boat crash into a helicopter in mid-air again.)

    I love Black Lagoon so much that I am right on board with this Jason. I’ve been waiting for Hollywood to pick up that gem, but instead we’re left with DBZ:Ev and Speed Racer. If there’s ever been an anime that would translate perfectly into a big-budget summer movie, its Black Lagoon.

  4. (Speaking of recent, hawt lesbian couplings… have you seen Octavia and Morgan in Tears to Tiara? Between the Albion Two Towers-like defense, Arthur’s Return of the King-like plot, and Octavia’s and Morgan’s blossoming love, Tears to Tiara has just been a vastly underrated series. And we haven’t even touched on Limwris’ awesomeness. I’m enjoying it.)

    My thought exactly

    http://blog.myconan.net/archives/1712

    :]

  5. I’m sure they’ll make an A-Team reboot soon enough – Katee Sackhoff will make a great “Face”.

  6. Hey, if you’re going to mention Tears to Tiara, at least don’t forget to mention the awesome RATHTY MISSILE!

    http://randomc.maximum7.net/im.....e%2031.jpg

    :D

  7. “I love … Kyon for growing balls”

    Wait, I thought the lesson learned over the last year or so was that people love Kyon with a lack thereof and a ponytail? You can’t have it both ways! Well… OK, I guess you CAN but I’m not seeing Trap-Kyon going over well.

  8. Some highly dubious analysis of good writing is going on here.

    Though Bakemonogatari’s writing is awesome and I have no intention of speaking against it.

  9. Kyou for Kyon is an anime trade that needs to happen. Sure on one side of the deal Tomoya potentially has yet anther awkward bromance. But on the flip side you get awesome tsun tsun dere dere action. I can’t wait for this pair to dress up as bunny girls and get locked in the gym storage shed.
    In other news Jeff Goldblum may not be with us any more… or is he?!
    http://www.colbertnation.com/t.....-be-missed

  10. Pokémon is totally the anime of the 90s. If you think otherwise, I’ve got a level 9 Bulbasaur who’d like a word with you.

  11. Pokémon is totally the anime of the 90s.

    Seconding this. In fact, Pokémon will be the Doraémon of the 21st century. If you think otherwise, I’ve got a cat who’d like a word with you–wait, that doesn’t sound right.

  12. I think you’re point the blame for Endless Eight at the wrong person. Tanigawa wrote a 30 page story with a corny but funny ending. Kyoani decided to put a 240 page novel with eight nearly identical chapters on the screen.
    It’s when Kyoani tries to be original that their inadequacies are shown up. In S1 they just adapted what Tanigawa wrote, and had a great success. By S2 they think they’re autuers, and the problems start.

  13. Jason, I just discovered something world-shattering! The true meaning of YTAMR!

    Yui
    Tsumugi
    Azusa
    Mio
    Ritsu

    YTAMR!

  14. I like that meaning.
    Haha “Kyou.”

  15. After watching all this (rather, not watching) I’m convinced that Kyoto Animation tried to pull a Shaft on us.

  16. There is one, and only one, way in which Kyoto can redeem Haruhi for this arc. The next episode must be preceded with a brief announcement, one which would read as follows:

    We apologise for the fault in the preceding episodes. Those responsible have been sacked. The remaining episodes have been completed in an entirely different style at great expense and at the last minute.

    Then Shaft takes over for the last few new episodes, and makes as many non-sequitur references to llamas as can be reasonably shoehorned in.

  17. Just two words came to my mid right now: “Finally over…”

    Next series please.

  18. I rather liked Endless Eight, in a way.

    I enjoyed looking at the episodes one by one, always looking for any sign of change, going through confusion, turmoil, hope and despair.

    From my point of view, it was somewhat akin to a religious experience.

    Of course that does not change the fact that eight times, made this way, was too much.

    I have a theory for why they would make Endless Summer that long:
    Kyoto wanted to end the second series with the end of Disappearance.
    There was not enough material in the novels to keep running for thirteen episodes without stretching, while still maintaining point 1.
    Endless Summer, by itself completely inconsequential, is relevant to the story of Disappearance, and Kyoto wanted to drive that point home.
    Kyoto did not want to, or could not, take any real freedoms with the source material (they would rather animate the same thing 15’532 more times rather than write anything original)

    I only hope that they learn from the mistake that maintaining the integrity of the show at the price of enjoyment is not a good move.

  19. Talk about the new episode of Bakemonogatari, it was awesome. Also, the anime of the 90’s is Dragon Ball Z. Pokemon was big but DBZ was more culturally significant.

    Oh, and .

  20. Oh, and [puts flag back in work desk]

  21. > “I’m still marveling that my Haruhi posts get so much more traffic than my Ghostory posts. ”
    It must be the leap people. Uh-huh.

  22. “Like you wouldn’t enjoy seeing a boat crash into a helicopter in mid-air again.”

    Didn’t flying boat launch a torpedo at helicopter in mid-air? Don’t remember boat itself hitting chopper, but i has been some time i last watched Black Lagoon.

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