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casual sex in anime vs. american tv

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1. 
   30 Jan 2006 at 1:13:48 AM Kurogane

   Nicely written piece of work here, but I think you left out an important part which is the mindset of Asians.

   Generally, for us, sex is a very important rite of passage to adulthood and signifies commitment, though this belief is recently being underscored by the major influence of sex in Western shows being aired on local networks.

   In fact, I remember a few local cases where some movies with some overt sex scene were banned, while some titles with over-the-top violence were allowed by the Censorship Board, leading to some people saying that the policy of the Board was “Make war, not love” XD.

   But still, the actual act of having sex is quite an important milestone to us Asians, and it is a very big step from accidentally revealing your naked self to other s to engaging in sex,which is why, while fanservice is there is spades in a lot of anime, the real act of intercourse itself is rarely done, except if it’s really called on. In fact, the only rare exceptions are Gainax shows, as you’ve mentioned in your post.
2. 
   30 Jan 2006 at 2:19:44 AM Phoenix512

   Saikano did kinda show the act of sex between Chise and Sho in the series along with a few other characters I think. Chise and Sho were underaged when they had sex but I think their reason to have sex was more for Chise than Sho himself as she need to feel human as the warmachine side of her was slowly taking over.

   I just wanted to mention this as another example of underaged sex.
3. 
   30 Jan 2006 at 2:33:39 AM Ender

   Here’s a quick thought: who are these people you are referring to, who think anime is so smutty? I’m wondering whether that sample population is really representative of the entire United States. You even state yourself that the media outlets conducting are inept/inconsequential/sleazy tabloids, so maybe it’s too early to be crying foul play here.

   But just for fun, let’s pretend we’re probing the mind of the so-called researcher, and consider a few demographic filters…

   Are you consulting with small children? If so, it would be odd to find that they consider DBZ, Pokemon, or Yugioh to be smutty. Thus, I would assume that any stigma of smuttiness would be derived from the teens/adults.

   If so, then where do these people get their anime exposure? Do they go to the store and randomly browse the DVD or manga covers? Because those tend to feature scantily clad buxom women, reason being that a good deal of the licensed stuff that makes it over to the U.S. is fanservicy crap. The covers of 90210 or Friends DVDs are fairly plain, in comparison, regardless of the actual content of the shows.

   Alternatively, maybe they get their info from media outlets (who have polled people that were influenced by another media outlet…who…), which are always on a lookout for a shock story. Having already complained about American TV since the Stone Age, these press sources latched onto the next big thing, and voila! Instant misconceptions planted into the subconscious of millions.

   Now, if the people you refer to have developed this preconception based on anime they have actually selectively watched, then…well…they have no excuse other than their poor taste. It’s their own fault that they watched Battle Vixens! Either that, or they are horny teenagers deliberately looking for this kind of fix, in which case we can just throw this whole argument out the window…

   Also keep in mind that everyone Americans don’t all watch the same thing…a grandma who doesn’t watch Friends/Ally McBeal or whatnot would naturally think anime is smutty – compared to C-SPAN! Whereas, the O.C. devout might not think anime is smutty at all!

   Demographics are a major factor in these opinion polls, so it’s a tricky issue to answer without knowing the specifics.
4. 
   30 Jan 2006 at 5:50:41 AM Nunka

   I sense a disturbance in the Jason…

   I agree with Ender’s opening statement—I doubt anyone is really worried about anime being too “shallow” or “casual” with regards to sex. I haven’t heard any news of this, aside from the mutual hatred of hentai in governments. And that’s hentai, not anime. :/
5. 
   30 Jan 2006 at 7:30:06 AM jpmeyer

   I think it’s because people aren’t considering sex as their measure of “smuttiness”. While yes, there is usually more sex-related content in one episode of an American show than in an entire anime series, between moe, fetishes, and fanservice, there ends up being more erotic content in a random anime episode than in an entire American TV series.

   Also, since most anime airs at pretty random times and doesn’t air during Golden Hour, there aren’t as many people watching (read: as many people to have to worry about offending). My-Otome had nekkid Arika and nekkid Major Wang, but My-Otome was also on at 1:30am, not 7:30pm.
6. 
   30 Jan 2006 at 8:58:39 AM jason

   Kurogane, I’m focusing on just the West. I’m also not focusing on culture, rather just raw content. Try and measure what’s out there. I’m sure there’s very few people outside of people in American during the late 80’s that rememeber Doogie or Picket Fences.

   Ender, we don’t vote for President on demographics. It’s not like, “Well, you’re 18 to 25 and male, so your vote only counts for 0.75”. I’m going for general, and I’m taking the worst of both. Notice how I don’t bring into question Pokemon, Yu-Gi-Oh, Sanford and Son, or Barney. And, again, the fundamental question is, “What’s worse?” Is it American media in general? Or anime in general? You can’t say well… it’s worse if you’re in this demographic. You’re going to have a hard time convincing me that Gundam Seed aimed at a different age bracket than something like Fresh Prince. And for how companies promote products, yes, I cringed when I saw how ADV promoted SisPri, but that’s yet another issue. I’m just looking at content. And fan choice? It’s your choice to pick up an Ikkitousen DVD… I mean, that’s not the issue. Is Ikkitousen more or less sexual than, let’s say, Baywatch? That’s the issue.

   jpmeyer, actually that’s the question. What is worse? The sex you see in The Real World? Or the sex you see in Kare Kano? If you were a parent, which would you be more concerned about? I’m going to ignore show times, because I’m focusing on the English audience, and there’s no time restriction when you can slide a DVD in or click on a fansub. BTW, Gundam Seed, Eva, and Kare Kano all aired during Golden Hour.
7. 
   30 Jan 2006 at 5:05:02 PM jpmeyer

   At the same time, I also believe that there was a big controversy and public outcry over the sex scenes in Eva and Gundam Seed? Eva was already treading on thin ice after it lost its sponsors because of graphic violence in ep 17.

   I don’t think that you can do a straight sex-to-sex comparison (nor can you do a direct fanservice/nudity-to-fanservice-nudity comparison) because of the different cultural norms. What it comes down to IMO is that both countries have warped representations of sex/gender, except they do them both in different ways. America has stuff like Sex in the City providing a hyperreal picture of sex, relationships, body issues, etc. while anime has something like He is my Master. HiMM doesn’t have fucking, and Sex in the City rarely has nudity, but they both contribute to the eroding of the Real and the commodification of sex in their respective cultures.

   If you’re dealing with an American audience, you’ve also got cross-culture issues that need to be addressed, which can annoying to sort out. Speaking for myself for instance, part of the reason that I thought that Chobits was funnier than most harem shows was because it was a sex comedy that actually like, had sexual humor (and actually had sex!) as opposed to just gratuitious raunchiness. But is that reasoning because I’m an American male who thus is innundated by my society and culture and media with sex? And also dealing with harem comedies, I wonder what it means that the male protagonist is usually pretty sexually inert and/or gynophobic (I THINK that’s a word).

   I guess what I’m trying to say is that while anime doesn’t provide a direct distortion of sex like something like Gray’s Anatomy or Melrose Place, animes like say, Nanoha still distort reality for viewers (“I’m only attracted to 2-D girls”).

   (BTW, when I go for my Ph.D. next year, I’m writing my dissertation on gender and sexuality in anime, so getting to have discussions like this make me all kinds of excited.)
8. 
   30 Jan 2006 at 7:50:39 PM Matt

   I think you guys are looking at this through otaku-tinted glasses. I don’t think hentai is a word many regular Americans would recognize. They may not know the word hentai, but you can bet that’s what a lot of them think anime is and all it is.

   The explicitness of sex in American TV is unimportant. The real problem is what sex is portrayed as being. It’s shown as either a farce, or something that can be done with complete irresponibility. These are not healthy attitudes. It could be worse though, they don’t portray sex as sin and a matter of shame.
9. 
   30 Jan 2006 at 9:25:04 PM Crusader

   Well I disagree with your assessment that there is more sexual content in American TV than in Anime. If you compared across all the networks available in both countries, it is probably more or less the same since the shows that you used for your sample are popular for many obvious reasons. Let’s avoid such general statements, since at the same time I could argue that there is more lewd content in Gainax productions than in Greatest Raids on the History Channel. You can’t really ignore the cultural gulf that separates the Japanese from the Americans. Like it or not the US is a very conservative nation in many regards and from what I have been told by some fellows who were part of my gaming group who work in the porn industry the Government exerts very tight control and any accusation of misconduct is always investigated.

   Another interesting note that at one point while the FBI was turning down applications, they were actively recruiting in Utah, not that the FBI caters to a certain demographic… I suspect that the reason that sex is treated so casually and more often as a punch line is that you can get away with it without inviting the wrath of the FCC. Comedy has long been a western tool to address issues that mattered; Voltaire’s “Candide” is a prime example of a masterful use of comedy to criticize the ills of society. In recent years you have the Daily Show lampooning the corruption that seems to be rampant in the Republican Party. The reason why Jon Stewart hasn’t been decried as a traitor is because as a comedian no one is expected to take him seriously. Besides if any show were to treat sex in a serious manner Pat Robertson would probably give you an un-welcome visit, and seriously do you want to have him tell you about his next prayer campaign?

   Also since when was the responsibility of teaching the birds and the bees thrust upon TV? It is somewhat wasteful to debate about the lewdness of TV when parents shrink away from talking to their children, only to go on about how TV is hurting their children. If you teach your children well then they can draw their own conclusions about sex.

   It is most unfortunate that when the word anime is mentioned that the first thing that comes to mind is Pokemon and now Hentai. The reason for this grossly distorted view is obvious; there is no present mainstream acceptance of anime in the US. The reason why video games have entered mainstream popularity is also largely due to the fact that a lot of the people who grew up with their Super NES and Super Famicom are now adults. In a few years when a whole generation of Otakus grows up into maturity the trend will change.

   I am very prudish when it comes to the sins of the flesh, but being soldier in the pay of the US government I am in no real position to criticize (Still who is worse the rapist or the murderer?). The only difference is that I chose Wrath as my deadly sin, and while the rest of America was watching sitcoms, I was glued to the History Channel. For me Anime is just a way to kill time during deployment, since access to my other hobbies and TV is restricted.

   -I am a soldier in the pay of the United States Government. If I vote against the administration I am voting against my commander in chief. If I vote for the administration I am being bought.
10. 
    30 Jan 2006 at 10:25:54 PM jason

    Wow. A lot of good points. See, this is why I should make more controversial posts instead of just doing “Shakugan no Shana ##” all the time. After re-reading what I wrote tonight, I realize why I wasn’t happy with it– it’s not fun to read. I hate writing things that aren’t fun to read.

    jpmeyer, maybe you are right. The sex in American TV prepared me for anime. Or was it the other way around? Though, HiMM hasn’t eroded anything in me except for my confidence in Gainax to make good anime again (Konomimi? WTF?).

    Matt, I complained mostly about how American TV can’t entertain without sex anymore. It’s sad when the most wholesome entertainment that I can find is either (1) Food Network (2) Dancing with the Stars and (3) WWE Raw Is War Nova.

    Crusader, don’t worry. The 22nd amendment makes sure that you don’t have to worry about that in 2008. I don’t want to get into a discussion about conservatism in the US. That’s out of my scope of knowledge. What I do know is that sex isn’t exactly common in anime. Going back to my example of American animated TV shows, anime also does a better job of appealing to adults without resorting to sex or sexual gags… when was the last time you watched an American equivalent of something like Mushishi or Aa! Megami-sama? Animated or not? Does it say something about this conservative society if it can’t produce non-sexual animated entertainment?
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    31 Jan 2006 at 1:51:23 AM Crusader

    The act of sex in anime may not be that common, but one the flip side fan-service is rampant and is more widespread than the Black Death in the 14th century. Most of this fan-service is sexual in nature and for me it would seem that it is also becoming a crutch for the Japanese as much as sex is for the Americans.

    As for non-sexual entertainment, I never found Inspector Gadget to be sexual in nature, but that was in the 80s. I still think GI Joe is great if only for the cheese factor.

    I recently dug up Space Battleship Yamato and even there you can see fan-service in its earliest incarnation, so there is little doubt in my mind that anime never really had a prudish tradition to look back upon (Seriously what w3as their equivalent of Bambi?). A notable exception must be made for Ghibli as Hayao Miyazaki and his successors have yet to tread down the all too easy path.

    The fact that more people got offended at Janet Jackson’s wardrobe malfunction than having the super bowl ruined forever more by having pop singers pollute the hallowed fields is indicative of the persistent Puritanism and idiotry of America (not to mention the commercials for male “enhancement”). The only expression of sex that is not under attack by pointless legislation is comedy as the more conservative elements have always underestimated this form of expression. If done correctly a comedy can have a comparable message as a drama, all it takes is a masterful use of wit and innuendo and in my opinion is much harder to do successfully.

    The fact that comedy has become the last refuge for widespread discussion of certain topics indicates that free speech has become way too polarized and the middle ground is being shot out from under my ass. Comedy is a great media to convey ideas, as it points out the absurdities of long held double standards, and social inequality. The problem is when it becomes the only means to a mass public forum for discussion it generally means that reason has had to go underground to avoid stupidity and idiot idolatry.

    -Don’t measure a man’s success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hits bottom.
12. 
    31 Jan 2006 at 9:50:26 AM Aqua_red

    Just to give in my opinon. Albeit much of what I have to say has probably been mentioned. One of the top reasons I do not watch an American t.v. is because of sex. The only series I watch is Gilmore Girls and the two “top” reality fashion shows you must guess which. I am completely sick and tired off the amount of sex on t.v. The stupid overused jokes and all that. Every show I watch seems to veer in that direction and so I stop watching the show. When Rory lost her virginity it upset me. Because I know that the people of the show are trying to say “Oh, she just another girl with temptations and she was not going to stay innocent forever”. I and many young adults out there still have not lost their virginity an I loved that series for that. I remembered when Rory received her acceptance letters and what Lorelei said and it made me cry. But, no every show has to turn into a complete raunch. Now every episode I see she’s with that ugly boyfriend of her’s in bed. Quite unncessary.

    Anime to me was an escape once I think of it and yet I like watching the scenes where things heat up a bit. Just as long as it does not become sex. I actually hated when Arima had sex with Yukino in Kare Kano. Is that the culmination or the start of a relationship? No it is not. I was going to mention Genshiken when reading your article. In Genshiken you can say sex is taking pretty lightly what with Saki always wanting to distract Kousaka from his obsessions. Albeit the mentioning of sec in Genshiken is comedic and in my opinon highlights her insecurities, but at the same time it’s an unpositive image of women. I think it’s one of the few times I have seen it in anime (though it’s probably been done frequently) where the woman is needy. Yet, this morning I was turning off the t.v. when I saw the commercial of the Gauntlet on MTV where one of the women was “hooking up” with yet another guy (I know the whole story only from the commericals imagine that). I thought to myself women will do anything with the male appendge nowadays. It’s rediculous how women act then they say that men are disrespectful pigs. Well, it’s because society and the media practially tell them to be that way and like System of a Down says. Kids grow up watching this stuff. Anime I think is no stranger from that though. What with the things male characters often do to women in anime. Now that’s all a part of their culture and the fact that grabbing in trains is an everyday thing.

    My point is that neither of them is innocent, but anime is like you said less focused on it (not counting hentai that’s just like saying porn) and if it does it it is usually in better taste. Not casually and the focus of everything.
13. 
    31 Jan 2006 at 1:56:11 PM Kendra Kirai

    The sad fact right now is that when you say the word ‘anime’ to a good 70% (My number, pulled right out of my gluteus maximus) of the general population, they will either say ‘Oh, like Pokemon?’ ‘What’s that?’ or ‘Oh, those cartoons with the tentacles and stuff.’

    What we need is one of the big top networks…or even UPN…showing a series that has almost nothing in the way of nudity, giant robots, or any kind of fanservice as it is generally recognized (Ignoring the fact that cute girls with (or without) glasses or giant robots are THEMSELVES fanservice, because that’s what fans like…) during prime time. Something like….Haibane Renmei, or…. …..Crap, I can’t think of another series that doesn’t have giant robots or obvious fanservice…Well, Ghibli films are always good for that stuff.

    Unfortunately, right now, anime is basically relegated to two time slots if it’s not a kids-slash-cartoon channel (YTV, Cartoon Network, etc); Saturday mornings and after midnight. Even the series with little fanservice, violence, or other such ‘objectionable’ content. (And even after they’ve been edited. Gundam SEED got edited like crazy, and then they STILL stuck it in the death sentance of time slots which is five thirty AM, then TWO AM.) Since anime is stuck in those time slots and channels that many average americans (age 18-35) won’t watch, even the good stuff..of which there is little that is on television(And even less stuff that’s been dubbed WELL. Ocean Group’s voice actors have less emotion in their voices than Ben freaking Stein on a percodin drip.)…is lost and ignored. The rest is changed beyond recognition or is just crap in the first place. (One Piece got changed beyond recognition, Beyblade was crap, Digimon Season 3 (AKA, Digimon Tamers) was really, really good…but because it was on Fox, it got buried between Mon Colle knights (Which was hacked to pieces) and *Fighting Foodons*. And Kinnikuman. And sometimes it got moved around in that ‘Fox Box’ block on saturday morning, so you didn’t know exactly when it would be on.

    I wish somebody would sub Digimon Tamers…Whoever owns the US rights (I think it’s either Fox itself or Saban) sure as hell isn’t going to do a subtitled version.

    …Back on track though…american TV has more than it’s share of fanservice. Look at just about any episode of..well..*any* american show. Is there a female in it? Does she have large breasts? If so, does she get put into skimpy, whorish outfits? How often? In this respect, american TV isn’t that different from japanese TV. There’s shows like Married with Children, with Kelly Bundy being a slut, and Peg Bundy wearing tight pants and low cut tops all the time, and then there’s shows like He Is My Master, with..well..pretty much exactly the same thing. Except Kelly was 17 or so, and the girls in HiMM were 13/14. Or something like Girls Bravo, or DearS. American and japanese TV both have, I would say, about equal amounts of scantily-clad females. Only Japan with with giant robots while we went with people having casual sex.
14. 
    8 Feb 2006 at 7:13:41 PM omo

    This is kind of slanted. If you look in the realm of manga, you’ll find that there are plenty of series and stories involving lots of sex, one way or another. I think ultimately it plays to the audience. Sex tends to be much frequent for shoujo and josei manga than shounen or non-hentai otaku stuff, and there are very few shoujo and josei anime (like Ebichu) compared to, well, the stuff that are cited as anecdotes in the blog. Given how much anime out there panders to the otaku crowd, and then what’s left panders to children, there’s really not much left that you can say as culturally representative. On that note, sex is almost non-existant in American animation.

    When you think about it, it makes sense. It’s probably important to note that a fair amount of American sitcom and night-time drama also get aired in Japan, and people do watch them. I think you’re on to something here, but anime is definitely not where you should look to compare.
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    8 Feb 2006 at 10:57:25 PM jason

    Didn’t I say network TV shows only? This ain’t about US vs. Japanese culture. Focus. Limit the scope. Just US vs. Japanese network TV.

    “Sex is almost non-existant in American animation.” Uh, no. Go watch some Family Guy and South Park.
16. 
    9 Feb 2006 at 11:17:15 AM Kendra Kirai

    I’m going to just copy and paste the last part of my minirant there, ’cause it *is* on track, and, I feel, quite relevant.

    …Back on track though…american TV has more than it’s share of fanservice. Look at just about any episode of..well..*any* american show. Is there a female in it? Does she have large breasts? If so, does she get put into skimpy, whorish outfits? How often? In this respect, american TV isn’t that different from japanese TV. There’s shows like Married with Children, with Kelly Bundy being a slut, and Peg Bundy wearing tight pants and low cut tops all the time, and then there’s shows like He Is My Master, with..well..pretty much exactly the same thing. Except Kelly was 17 or so, and the girls in HiMM were 13/14. Or something like Girls Bravo, or DearS. American and japanese TV both have, I would say, about equal amounts of scantily-clad females. Only Japan with with giant robots while we went with people having casual sex.

    Now, for the new stuff. As for WHY america went with casual sex and the japanese went with other things, *requires* us to delve into the differing cultures. But the fact remains…American TV has casual sex and fanservice, and japanese TV has a much wider selection of fanservice.
17. 
    12 Feb 2006 at 3:45:56 AM Wyk72

    I’ve read this thread and I find very very intresting. Since I’m italian, I can’t really comment tightly on American TV, but 90% of the shows you’ve mentioned are regularly aired here (dubbed in italian..my cousin, which is from Los Angeles, is always ROFL when he listens to these dubs – I agree with him).

    To put it simply, my two cents is that Anime is WAY better in handling sex, because it’s 90% of the times treated in such delicate, nice, and somewhat beautiful way. Now in italian TV, not the series from USA, take the comedy shows or big containers, sex is omni-present. It sells well. In reality shows the fanservice is a MUST. In the last 2 yrs, this “big brother” reality show isn’t even worth watching, if they don’t put in some models which, obviously, start to f*ck in a 2-3 days after they’re put together with some guys on a house, with the joy of cameramen who obviously are there to show you the whole stuff (it’s censored, but not much, really). “Scantly clad” is the absolute norm, sexual jokes are uncountable.

    I want to make an example in how much more “clean” to me is anime in respect to “standard TV”. Take Mai-HIME. The kiss Natsuki gives to Shizuru in ep.25 (if I remember well). It’s clearly homosexual stuff. But I didn’t find it any disturbing or obscene, I think it was very delicate, almost poetic, something which was coming out of a complex situation, not just a thing to “spice up”.

    In my respect, TV in my country is so uncomparably vulgar, obsessed with sex that anime, in this respect wins HANDS down.

    I find the “fanservice” in anime only slightly erotic, cometimes classy, sometimes used just for fun. But please, comparing it to my country’s TV in the sex department isn’t even FAIR. Anime,compared, is pure chastity, even if it talks about creepy things like incest, homosexuality, and stuff like that – leaving out hentai, of course.I can find nude photos of EVERY showgirl I find in italian TV on Internet . Every 31st of January there’s the “battle of calendars”, where every showgirl (and every “beautiful men”,now, of course) strives to get the best possible nude photo for the public to ogle. Former and not-so former porn-stars are becoming successful showgirls here (Eva Henger is an example). One was successfully elected in the parliament once, and made her campaign by showing her tits around (“cicciolina”….) – ok it’s not tv related, sorry.

    So, I couldn’t help a laugh, making a comparison to the sex-bombing that we take on tv here, and the stuff we see on anime.

    To me anime is poetic and/or funny in sex stuff, ITA tv is way too vulgar.
18. 
    4 Apr 2006 at 4:31:50 PM thenightsshadow

    The reason I believe anime is given a bad hype is because they’re not reluctant about it.
    It’s presented (mostly) the natural way, nothing holding it back, whether by traditions or whatever.

    I really think that you got the point down.
19. 
    9 Jul 2006 at 11:20:42 AM Zero Blitz

    You left out Onegai Teacher although you may just not have watched it.

    Also, the Nanoha comparison doesn’t work too well since generally 9-11 years olds don’t go around having sex in any country or on American TV (as far as I know). :P Although… it seems there’s been no relational progress between any of the characters (I was hoping for Nanoha/Fate
20. 
    9 Jul 2006 at 11:27:38 AM Zero Blitz

    Huh… my comment got cut for some reason… :/

    I hope it submits properly this time and not just the first 80 or so words. Well, here it is again:

    You left out Onegai Teacher although you may just not have watched it.

    Also, the Nanoha comparison doesn’t work too well since generally 9-11 years olds don’t go around having sex in any country or on American TV (as far as I know). ;P Although… it seems there’s been no relational progress between any of the characters (I was hoping for Nanoha/Fate ^^) in the six year later preview. But, it also seems as if it would have eventually been Nanoha/Yuuno if they had done another sequel, which is so unlikely it makes me sad. =[

    American TV seems more focused on the people who do treat sex like something they should just do whenever they feel like it and at any age (well generally at least 15) while anime seems focused on teens that are far more mature than their American counter-parts. I don’t know much about America but it can’t be totally different from England and I know that a lot of people around my age (16) treat sex like it is on American TV. But I doubt many of them will ever end up in a long-term relationship. The media is far too influential, in my opinion.

    The worst thing I’ve heard about the Japanese (and although I’d consider it worse then most things that go on in America, the sexual aspect of it is meant to be quite rare) is enjo kōsai: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enjo_k%C5%8Dsai .

    Other than this, sex seems to be taken far more seriously in regards to who they have it with. This is shown quite well in some statistics I’ve found, which seem to be from trustworthy sources. Apparently in 2002, America had a divorce rate of around 31% (according to Wiki) and Japan had a divorce rate of around 15.7% (according to two year old article on a news website). Of course, showing that there is a much smaller divorce rate doesn’t necessarily mean they make more intelligent decisions in regards to sex but it is often true as sex leads to marriage in a lot of cases and thus, if they have sex more often, they are more likely to get married and it’s more common that the couple wouldn’t know whether they’re right for each other since they wouldn’t have spent enough time finding out.

    I also agree whoever said that anime does kissing far better than most TV shows could ever hope to do. If it was reality and you had 3-7 good looking girls (all of which have things you especially like about them in particular), fawning all over you, I doubt you’d wait months for your first kiss (or kiss that lasts more than 3 seconds) like in nearly every harem-style anime series.

    Anime can also get away with more than American TV as they’re considered, at least mostly, realistic, while most things to do with anime can be considered similar to thinking up a fantasy situation in your mind. Even Simoun, which has the most girl-girl kissing in an anime so far (which isn’t saying all that much as shoujo-ai is only just getting popular) is a lot calmer than American TV. Especially after the first one or two episodes as there isn’t as much need for the Simoun. The story in that is turning out really well, in my opinion and I think it’s stupid that most people stopped watching after the first episode then a load more after the second just due to girls kissing and then nearly everyone else once Doremi put less of their attention on subbing it and Simoun-Fans have only just taken it up a short while ago. Now it has a really crap temp. rating on AniDB due to impatient people. :(

    I’m sure I had some other things to say but I can’t remember them very well… If someone wants to criticise my opinions – although this blog is so old, I doubt many people will see it – then feel free to.
21. 
    21 Jan 2007 at 4:20:37 PM daelite

    LATE reply but I was browsing through some of your older entries and had to say I really enjoyed reading this and I agree with you 100% :)
    Three other anime series I can think of that deal with sex… Kimi ga Nozomu Eien where 2 seniors in high school that hook up rather suddenly in spring come very close to having sex in summer (they’re naked in bed when a parent returns home, and it’s unclear if they actually DO it). And then the more recent Bokura ga Ita where a similar situation to the one described above happens, though it’s already known that the boy had sex with 2 girls in middle school (the older sister in the gym and the younger on a total whim after he was dumped). And then NANA & Paradise Kiss (which I lump together) which have storylines similar to more American shows- there’s a lot of random hook ups and sex, though it isn’t made fun of.

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